I finally got around to painting this mule drawn Spanish limber.
I was hoping to have it ready for the Ocaña game on 12/31, but couldn't quite get it ready by then.
Attaching the cast "ropes" was a nuisance, but worth it in the end!
Model is by Perry.
Nice job, knowing how you felt about limbers in the past makes it even more impressive. I also think your basing sells the team setting and turns it into a piece of table drama.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Joe. My goal is to have 1-2 limbers for most of the major powers. I have lead for Bavaria, Britain, and France. Austria (and Baden!) I already have covered. I'll eventually need to add Russia and Prussia as well - those will likely come from Perry, given their exceptional attention to Artillery equipment in their ranges!
DeleteVery nice indeed Peter. You’ve done a lovely job on these that’s most certain. Just as a question. Have you much information on 1806/07 Prussian limber teams at all? Knowing the depth of your collection I’m hopeful you’ve come across some references in your time.
ReplyDeleteThanks Carlo. I have great reference for 1808 - 1815 Prussia, the earlier period... not as good. Let me do a little research tonight...
DeleteCarlo, other than the fact that all equipment, including limbers and caissons, were painted light blue like the guns, I couldn't find anything about the Artillery train. In fact from the the 1808 - 1815 information, I am pretty sure that the artillery drivers just wore the same uniforms as the artillerists, and were integral to the Artillery units themselves, and thus wore the same uniforms. This would be unlike the French, Austrians, and most other nations during the Napoleonic wars. Even for 1808 and beyond, the information about the "train", is not the Artillery train, but rather field bakeries, wagon drivers, horse depots, field hospital, etc. - like the French Train d' equipages" rather than the Artillery Train proper. In 1808, they wore a dark blue jacket like the Kollet but without cuffs, scarlet shoulder straps, and light blue collars; turnback's were dark blue, grey overalls, black belts. Prussian shako, and cockade by service:
DeleteBakers - Light Blue
Driver - Dark Blue
Horse Depot - Dark Blue
Commissariat - Bright Red
Field Cashier - Bright Green
Provision Depots - Lemon Yellow
Field Hospitals - Blood Red (!)
Field Post (messengers) - Orange (also wore blue and orange feather plume.
Nash somewhat cryptically comments in one line. "The Truppentrain wore a similar uniform, but with the collar and shoulder straps in the colors of the regiment to which they were attached." By this I think he is referring to the support staff of the individual regiments (of infantry and cavalry).
This is all 1808 - 1815, so not really germane to your question, except for trends...
DeleteOther sources say "Dull mid blue" for the carriages, lambers etc
DeleteThank you so much Peter. That information is excellent and gives me a good amount yo deal with.
DeleteLovely work! I have few limbers to make for my Austrians, Brunswickers and Union ACW army. The only thing I don't like putting together are the little ropes and chains. By the way, I plan to make some ammunition wagons for the Brunswickers. Do you have any idea what/if to write on them? And would it be black or white paint? ;-)
ReplyDeleteBest wishes,
Jan
Thanks, Jan. French equipment is the only one where I have seen much information about labeling. Let me look into that one, too!
DeleteNone of the pictures I could find had any such markings. If they did, my pure guess would be the company (Kompanie) number (Nummer) [all the Purssian batteries/artillery companies were numbered) so K. Nu. 20 or something like it - but this is pure speculation.
DeleteDr Stephen Summerfield's book on Napoleonic Artillery might or might not shed some light on these questions...
Very nice indeed Peter - its a great model to start with, and your paint job makes it even better - as Joe mentions, the basing is particularly nice too!
ReplyDeleteThanks, Keith. I started using basing like this when I did some wagons a few years back, and I like how it looks for limbers, etc, as well..
DeleteJolly nice
ReplyDeleteThank you, Gary!
DeleteVery nice Peter, and I really like the choice of colour for the horses. I know you have mentioned this before, but what did you make the ropes out of?
ReplyDeleteIn the case of the Perry models, they are actually white metal casts! The tricky part was getting the spacing on the base right for the horses and limber for it all to connect together! I di the initial attachment with super glue, and as that would be very fragile, then slathered epoxy over the joins the next day for long term strength and stability. I think Mark did his Limbers with braided wire (the kind used in the US for hanging pictures).
DeleteThat's right, it must have been the braided wire I was thinking of.
DeleteTruly superb, great job and splendid figures!
ReplyDeleteMerci, Phil; glad you like it!
DeleteBeautiful work Peter, this is a fine model and paint job :)
ReplyDeleteThank you, Mark!
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